Would you Support a Rails to Trails Project?

Build Our Trail wants you to take a 10 question survey.

The idea of converting the inactive Fox-Chase Newtown Line into a multi-purpose trail has been the topic of discussion for months. To continue the conversation, a local group wants you to take a short survey about it.

Build Our Trail, a grassroots organization of residents in Northampton and Upper Southampton Townships who support the conversion, is asking the community to participate in a 10-question survey.

Back in September, the Northampton Township Board of Supervisors decided to hold off on pursuing a Rail to Trail project after hearing public comment from residents and people from neighboring communities. People spoke both for and against the idea of a rail to trail project.

Learn more about Build Our Trail on their website.

John Scott December 10, 2012 at 04:38 PM
I was referring to the NBPF and the SSRRS. I don't know anything about this historical advisory board, so I'm not sure which individual you're referring to. If that dual board membership has been made public, though, it's not a big deal. In BOT's case, one of the founding members apparently denied her association with BOT at a Southampton EAC meeting. That EAC has expressed a desire to bring commuter service back to the township. Meanwhile, one of its members is secretly trying to prevent that. That's the conflict. Which organization does she serve?
Teri December 10, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Lisa Why would you want to attack someone who is concerned about young children? It's not about me. But the fact is ~you have bullied ME all along with your so called positive comments. This world is not all sunshine and walking trails. And walking trails do not make or bring a perfect world. There are trail and parks that aren't in peoples back yards. All I'm saying is walk on them and leave us alone. I'm not telling you to stop walking biking or exercising. I'm not an outsider commenting on this. This trail will affect me personally. I feel all the pro trail people are just mean bulling people. All I'm asking is that you step out of your life and see what harm you may be doing to others. Ok so you are giving me the option of making others safer? By having the trail I guarantee there will be a tragedy on Elm and Bustleton when one of those fast moving trucks hit some kid on a bike or a walker. Its not in your back yard so how can you even comment on my feelings and fight me about this?
DJ December 10, 2012 at 04:50 PM
You guarantee it? That is a sick threat teri, I cannot believe that you would be willing to push a small child into traffic. I mean guaranteeing to harm a small child, come on have a heart.
Lisa Gresley December 10, 2012 at 05:01 PM
Teri, This is sad. I do have three children under the age of 15 and we go to Tamendend all of the time as well as they go to their fathers house right off of Churchville Road..... Which backs-up to the tracks..... So I do know exactly how you feel... I, however, know that we will NEVER, EVER, live in a world without sick, perverted people. A world without crime or death. I choose to be proactive and teach my children to look out for situations, stay away from things that could hurt you, always be with someone, and they never go to the park by themselves. If they are going to a friends house they have their phone with them at all times and walk together. Please don't try and tell me how I am supposed to feel. You are a very negative person and I on the otherhand will NOT live in a bubble and not expose my children to the world. We love to be active and outside and just enjoy life. There is no reason to be afraid......BE AWARE!!!!!!! Maybe if everyone takes a little responsibility and picks up the trash that they leave or maybe the trash that they may see on the trail it will inspire someone else to do the same. That is what I teach my kids.
Lisa Gresley December 10, 2012 at 05:05 PM
Southampton police have a bicycle patrol that could cover the trail. Someone mentioned watching your children when they are outside. That is what a parent/grandparent is supposed to do anyway. I never leave my kids outside without being able to see them. And in my "OPINION" wouldn't a paved trail be safer than having an overgrown place to hide and party? None of that trash is from the street or the sewer or waterflow. It is all from people hanging out on the tracks. I lived on Churchville road for 15 years and never did I have trash streaming through my yard when it rained. Just saying...... Have a nice day.
Teri December 10, 2012 at 05:12 PM
No DJ you chasing someone with your unicorn and yellow balloon would be enough to have someone run without looking. I love little children and don't push them or think its funny when something bad happens to them ~as you do.
Mike Ryan December 10, 2012 at 05:12 PM
I would love to walk and cycle on the trail if it is built. But I see some mothers with legitimate concerns for the safety of their children. So I vote NO maybe Alex and Lisa should get a treadmill. Its not their property it belongs to septa. Nice folks will use the trail I agree. But it is naive to think there wont be any perverts there as well. That is unless you simple don't care about kids, and a person is only concerned about their own recreation. There is a bar and a liqueur store right next to the tracks. Maybe the hobos in the woods near the Warminster train station will find this trail a little more attractive to build a new camp. I know that area back there, it is remote and secluded.
DJ December 10, 2012 at 05:17 PM
Hey Teri, You were the one guaranteeing bodily harm to a small child. I vehemently oppose violence towards children which is obviously something you support.
Teri December 10, 2012 at 05:21 PM
But Linda I'm sure your children have a safe haven. In this case there will be no safe haven. The children are watched all the time. But there are 3 of them also and don't have a fathers house to go to. They live with both parents. Can they come to your house? I'm sure your back yard is not opened for all and any that want to enter. People don't just stay on paths. They will not have to go to a park because it will be in thier back yard.
DJ December 10, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Wow, this is awesome. According to Mike Ryan everyone who goes to a bar or liquor store is a pervert. Also, quoting that he knows dark secluded areas. Think I just found the alcoholic hobo perv everybody. So I guess alcoholics anonymous should be called perverts anonymous just for clarity sake.
Teri December 10, 2012 at 05:41 PM
Wow Dj you are right again. You have been making fun of a childs bad past through all your posts. You dont seem to care. is this what makes you happy? Are you going to be behind my house on that trail? See Lisa would you want this in your back yard?
Jack December 10, 2012 at 05:58 PM
I think you know exactly what is being referred to. I looked into this "desire to bring commuter service back to the township" and all I could find was a letter written by an EAC where only 2 of those 5 members remain on the board. Is there something else that I am missing? This is one of the benefits of term limits. Boards can change and opinions can change. I hardly think you can use that letter and say that it speaks to the feelings of the current board when 3 of the members weren't even on the board when that letter was signed.
Kathleen December 10, 2012 at 06:29 PM
DJ - IF you choose the other or none box you get an error message and it WILL NOT process your response. How deep an explanation is needed for you to understand this. Try reading what people are actually saying. Are you this insulting in person or only on the internet? Rational discussion would suite more to win your cause.
DJ December 10, 2012 at 06:55 PM
I will be in your back yard. Defending small children from you pushing them into traffic and you will feel the wrath of my unicorn (or pegasus haven't decided).
DJ December 10, 2012 at 07:17 PM
I am even more awesome in person. And if "people" you mean "you" then I would agree "you"(or people as you refer to yourself) are having a hard time. But you seem to be the only one.
Teri December 10, 2012 at 07:35 PM
DJ you make me mad with some of your comments, then make me laugh out loud with others. You're probably a funny guy (or girl?). We would get along fine. I still don't want you in my back yard!
Teri December 10, 2012 at 07:47 PM
I like it just the way it is~ with all the drunks, druggies, and trash throwing perv's that are there now. They don't bother us one bit. I don't want all you clean cut, jogging, biking, attractive, park people who pick up trash. Who have been bullying me all along. I like it just the way it is. Anyone want to buy a house? You win!
Ashley VanSant December 10, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Just based on the feedback here, this trail will never get built. The UST supervisors aren't putting their necks or budgets on the line to build a certain Southampton resident a train-stopper. In fact, they just signed a resolution in favor of SEPTA trains. Would be really cool if we could get high-speed Acela service though.
Teri December 10, 2012 at 08:30 PM
John Scott December 10, 2012 at 08:37 PM
A letter signed by a board has precedential value until a new one has reversed it, but that's not really the point. The point is that someone who was appointed to the board is secretly also pushing a rail trail agenda. The board and the township merely need to be aware that this person has a dual loyalty - one to the EAC, and another to BOT. The cover-up is always worse than the crime, so to speak, and the township could decide that it's ok that a BOT founder sits on the EAC. But maybe not - maybe some people believe that someone with a trail agenda is too "single issue" to be serving on a township committee. It wouldn't be the first time a "single issue" group was asked to step back. In any case, that decision should be made by the township and it's residents. The EAC/BOT member is doing a disservice by hiding this dual affiliation from them. As far as the historical society, I honestly don't know who you're referring to.
DJ December 10, 2012 at 08:52 PM
And as everyone knows the best source to get any information from is from a bunch of ranting lunatics on an obscure blog posting. Way to think that statement out ashley.
DJ December 10, 2012 at 08:54 PM
This is the dumbest site ever: "If, at a later time, a credible trail movement emerges, rest assured we will re-mobilize. Our job here is done. Thank you for your support and concern." Apparently it is run by Bat-Man.
DJ December 10, 2012 at 08:55 PM
DJ December 10, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Teri December 10, 2012 at 09:19 PM
http://uppersouthampton.patch.com/articles/build-our-trail-group-seeks-non-profiT-status Read these old posts very enlightening to what's really going on here. Lisa you'll never have that gym membership money~ it'll be going to taxes. Lisa want to trade houses? Your not a fearful person. BE AWARE!! of what's going on in your little trail setting. Anyone really live in Upper Southampton besides Lisa Kathy and I? Its the BOT's against the EAC's ( and DJ you thought Mike Ryan's gangs had funny names) with some board member who has a fence company that will benefit from the tax payers money during a recession. Alleged heavy breathing on phones. Crazy!! And I was afraid of the pervs. This is more than happy little people building a happy little sunny trail. Any of you mob associated? My real names is not Teri just saying. DJ I love Batman!
Ashley VanSant December 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Ive lived in Southampton my whole life, and I never thought there were this many crazy people here. Most of us can read between the lines and see this is really about keeping the train out since there's a group or two out there promoting it. I have an idea who is running BOT and its shameful they've engaged in phone-breathing and other harassing tactics to scare away the critics. There are too many characters with this group to trust them. A fence guy, a township official on the EAC, and a guy who claims to have dual residency in Upper Southampton and Northampton Townships so he can speak "as a resident" at multiple public hearings. You can't dream this stuff up!!!
the truth December 10, 2012 at 11:47 PM
No truth in advertising (pics of trails with out backyards & homes) No truth in data aquisition (survey's and petitions) no truth in identy ( NHT meeting, SHT politico;s) no truth in profiteering (fencing) no truth in research (rtt gobbly goo) If these are the good local folks who will be using the trail, I wonder what the out of town drifters and hoods will be like!
the truth December 11, 2012 at 12:01 AM
Hello BOT Hello? hello??... Im still waiting for you to post truthfull pictures of what the completed trail will look like. You know the hundreds of homes that back up to the rail line (some as close as 50') why are they not seen on your web site or petition? Hello Hello???. Has any heard fom BOT? Did they call it quits already? or are they hiding from the truth.
amills4964 December 11, 2012 at 03:28 PM
hi. these concerns are valid i think. the track is very close to homes and peoples backyards. i have friend live near Spring Mount I believe close to what is called perkomen trail. nice trail, pretty area but very rural. many access points by streets. i think redding rr abandoned in 1970s so it gone for a long time and land owned by county i believe. what i trying to say is that this line is not good for trail if so many people are angry about it. i cannot think why a politician would support this if so controversial. i support it, but i not poltician. maybe wait until the econony is better. i think Komelasky said meeting (i saw video) that very little money, gets calls from people complaining about potholes.
John Scott December 12, 2012 at 03:31 AM
Township money would apparently be better spent on spell-check software than a trail. Just saying.


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